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I'm sure everyone has heard about this, and I've seen the video which makes you ashamed of being a human being. I wanted to know people's opinions on this matter.
Of course it's a great tragedy but does it take away from the crimes comitted by the American soldiers in Abu-Gharib and what do you think the implications of it are.
Nick Burg beheaded in Iraq by Al-qaeda linked group
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Posted 11 May 2004 - 06:29 PM
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Posted 11 May 2004 - 10:42 PM
I'm reading about this in Yahoo at the moment... this may sound morbid.. but I what to see this video. I won't believe until I see it with my own eyes, poor soul! One thing killing someone and killing someone and showing to the world as well.
this is turly sad... it just shows how much hate is in this world
"Allahu Akbar!" ... God is great as they are beheading him?!?!?
what type of a sick person would use God's name in this killing... unless it was Satan. He is the God of this world.. so I guess they are calling Satan's name and not Yahweh
this is turly sad... it just shows how much hate is in this world
"Allahu Akbar!" ... God is great as they are beheading him?!?!?
what type of a sick person would use God's name in this killing... unless it was Satan. He is the God of this world.. so I guess they are calling Satan's name and not Yahweh
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Posted 11 May 2004 - 11:29 PM
Want me to send the link to you? PM me if anyone wants to see this.
"The best activitities for your health are pumping and humping."- 1975
"Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..." - 1979
"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
Do you find retards funny? I sure as hell do.
"Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..." - 1979
"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
Do you find retards funny? I sure as hell do.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 12:26 AM
It was a sickening display of what false idealogies and fanatiscm will do to a person and civilization.
Its sad to see something like this happen. I'm no fan of U.S. hostility and agression against the world, the list of wrongdoings by the U.S. is also endless, but this is shameless. I found the stunts by U.S. soldiers to be just as disturbing, but at least we can presume that those soldiers will be dealt with accordingly by their own governments, these radicals will just find another hole to hide in,
Its sad to see something like this happen. I'm no fan of U.S. hostility and agression against the world, the list of wrongdoings by the U.S. is also endless, but this is shameless. I found the stunts by U.S. soldiers to be just as disturbing, but at least we can presume that those soldiers will be dealt with accordingly by their own governments, these radicals will just find another hole to hide in,
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 10:16 PM
It's disturbing.
BUT
it was happening and they weren't recording it before.
He was not a soldier, not a political figure, nothing.
I didn't see the tape but I heard he was beheaded slowly. Such inhumane acts. Dispicable.
BUT
it was happening and they weren't recording it before.
He was not a soldier, not a political figure, nothing.
I didn't see the tape but I heard he was beheaded slowly. Such inhumane acts. Dispicable.
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 12:44 AM
He was beheaded like a sheep. Don't we have a hadis or something in Islam that strongly forbids harming a POW?
"The best activitities for your health are pumping and humping."- 1975
"Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..." - 1979
"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
Do you find retards funny? I sure as hell do.
"Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..." - 1979
"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
Do you find retards funny? I sure as hell do.
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 09:39 AM
Mardoom-Azar, on May 12 2004, 12:26 AM, said:
It was a sickening display of what false idealogies and fanatiscm will do to a person and civilization.
Its sad to see something like this happen. I'm no fan of U.S. hostility and agression against the world, the list of wrongdoings by the U.S. is also endless, but this is shameless. I found the stunts by U.S. soldiers to be just as disturbing, but at least we can presume that those soldiers will be dealt with accordingly by their own governments, these radicals will just find another hole to hide in,
Its sad to see something like this happen. I'm no fan of U.S. hostility and agression against the world, the list of wrongdoings by the U.S. is also endless, but this is shameless. I found the stunts by U.S. soldiers to be just as disturbing, but at least we can presume that those soldiers will be dealt with accordingly by their own governments, these radicals will just find another hole to hide in,
Wanna know what I think? I don't think ANYONE'S gonna do ANYTHING about what those american soldiers did!! As usual, they're gonna talk about it for a while to show the public that "yeah, we're really concerned, we care, look we're even talking about it" but that's as far as it'll go.
In a few days it's gonna be OLD NEWS & put to rest.
This isn't the first act of WILDNESS on the part of americans, is it??
What has anyone ever done about everything they've been respnsable for up to now?? N O T H I N G !
Why? Because it's the United Staes Of America!
*Albateh nagofteh namanad, I'm SO against what those animals did to that american guy!!
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 10:18 AM
Amir, there are alot of things in the Quran that say how a "war" should actually be. It strictly forbids the killing of the people who aren't fighting which are mainly the elderly, the women, and the children. It forbids the destrution of nature as well.
Also, I believe it also forbids the killing of people who have surrendered - who pose no hostility/threat.
I don't think we should even label these people as muslims because they definately are not muslims. If they were, they'd know what they've done is wrong. Suicide bombings are also forbidden because SUICIDE is forbidden.
These people just use religion as an excuse. They hide behind religion like cowards. And their distortion of the religion is what has made the world so anti-muslim today.
Also, I believe it also forbids the killing of people who have surrendered - who pose no hostility/threat.
I don't think we should even label these people as muslims because they definately are not muslims. If they were, they'd know what they've done is wrong. Suicide bombings are also forbidden because SUICIDE is forbidden.
These people just use religion as an excuse. They hide behind religion like cowards.
And their distortion of the religion is what has made the world so anti-muslim today.
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 12:23 PM
Angel!!
They were muslims, now lets not fool ourselves, they were fundamental muslims who believe in nothing but Islam & muslims' superiority over other religions, they were a bunch of ruthless thugs full of attrocity and hatred. and that's what they are.
I am a so called muslim as well, but I never fond of any religion or religious beliefs.
They were muslims, now lets not fool ourselves, they were fundamental muslims who believe in nothing but Islam & muslims' superiority over other religions, they were a bunch of ruthless thugs full of attrocity and hatred. and that's what they are.
I am a so called muslim as well, but I never fond of any religion or religious beliefs.
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 12:58 PM
Angel, on May 13 2004, 11:18 AM, said:
Amir, there are alot of things in the Quran that say how a "war" should actually be. It strictly forbids the killing of the people who aren't fighting which are mainly the elderly, the women, and the children. It forbids the destrution of nature as well.
Also, I believe it also forbids the killing of people who have surrendered - who pose no hostility/threat.
I don't think we should even label these people as muslims because they definately are not muslims. If they were, they'd know what they've done is wrong. Suicide bombings are also forbidden because SUICIDE is forbidden.
These people just use religion as an excuse. They hide behind religion like cowards. And their distortion of the religion is what has made the world so anti-muslim today.
Also, I believe it also forbids the killing of people who have surrendered - who pose no hostility/threat.
I don't think we should even label these people as muslims because they definately are not muslims. If they were, they'd know what they've done is wrong. Suicide bombings are also forbidden because SUICIDE is forbidden.
These people just use religion as an excuse. They hide behind religion like cowards.
And their distortion of the religion is what has made the world so anti-muslim today."Also, I believe it also forbids the killing of people who have surrendered - who pose no hostility/threat."
The Quran doesn't forbid it, the laws of humanity forbid it. (Geneva)
"Suicide bombings are also forbidden because SUICIDE is forbidden. "
Not if its done in the way of Islam and for the good of Islam. In fact, in Western societies to committ suicide it means that you do not value your life, in Islam however if you committ suicide as a martyr it actually means that you VALUED your life to the point that you were willing to give it up for Islam.
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 07:32 PM
And that Mardom-Azar!
is stupid and retarded to me ( giving it up for Islam).
is stupid and retarded to me ( giving it up for Islam).
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Posted 13 May 2004 - 09:41 PM
1) The Quran does forbid it.
2) Suicide is forbidden regardless. Martyr, no martyr, doesn't matter. My point stays as it was.
Keano: They call themselves muslims but they twist and turn everything to make it sound like they're doing the right thing. They butcher it to make it sound as though it's ok for them to hurt and kill people. That doesn't make them muslim. Don't mistake that.
2) Suicide is forbidden regardless. Martyr, no martyr, doesn't matter. My point stays as it was.
Keano: They call themselves muslims but they twist and turn everything to make it sound like they're doing the right thing. They butcher it to make it sound as though it's ok for them to hurt and kill people. That doesn't make them muslim. Don't mistake that.
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Posted 14 May 2004 - 08:01 PM
I Amir to kill you, on May 11 2004, 11:29 PM, said:
Want me to send the link to you? PM me if anyone wants to see this.
Amir!
I did pm you 2 times, how come you didn't reply to it???
Or do I need to be a girl in order to get your reply???
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Posted 15 May 2004 - 11:21 AM
well ...
American are occupants in Iraq.
So they deserve, what occupants deserve.
If some people belive, that civilist from occupant country can go freely to occupied country and make bussines there, they should check history of occupations.
I specialy recommand you central, eastern europe history, you will find much more nasty things that cutting heads.
Fantacis claim to do things in name of god... well... every fanatic is a bit of so take their words seriously is not quite good idea, untill it doesnt fit to your politics.
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American are occupants in Iraq.
So they deserve, what occupants deserve.
If some people belive, that civilist from occupant country can go freely to occupied country and make bussines there, they should check history of occupations.
I specialy recommand you central, eastern europe history, you will find much more nasty things that cutting heads.
Fantacis claim to do things in name of god... well... every fanatic is a bit of so take their words seriously is not quite good idea, untill it doesnt fit to your politics.
Orel
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Posted 15 May 2004 - 11:30 AM
Angel, on May 12 2004, 10:16 PM, said:
I didn't see the tape but I heard he was beheaded slowly. Such inhumane acts. Dispicable.
yeah they did it slowly because they were lack of skill.
actualy i saw tape and all of guys who were there were pretty scared by what they were doing.
Non of them were calm.
it were just bunch of chaotic idiots w/o brain.
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Posted 15 May 2004 - 11:30 AM
Keano, these aren't Muslims at all!! They are, in my opinion of course, hypocrites - just because they say they are fighting for Islam and are pure Muslims does not mean they are - just look at what they are doing!! I am a Muslim, and I do not have a religion that supports such RADICALS and inhumane behavior...
and suicide IS a sin honey...martyrdom is actually quite different...it means dying for a cause...not taking ur life because u can't take 'it' anymore...God did not want us to waste the opportunities of life because we cannot overcome obstacles...but it is a different thing if u use your life to achieve something so great...don't u think? I know interpretations differ, and of course this is only mine...religion is way too personal to have a general interpretation...so I value ur opinion Keano jooni...
take care and God bless,
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and suicide IS a sin honey...martyrdom is actually quite different...it means dying for a cause...not taking ur life because u can't take 'it' anymore...God did not want us to waste the opportunities of life because we cannot overcome obstacles...but it is a different thing if u use your life to achieve something so great...don't u think? I know interpretations differ, and of course this is only mine...religion is way too personal to have a general interpretation...so I value ur opinion Keano jooni...
take care and God bless,
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Posted 15 May 2004 - 10:51 PM
Guest: As far as I know Nick Berg wasn't "occupying". He wasn't a soldier, he wasn't part of the army. He was just another innocent person.
He had a father, a mother, siblings, friends, relatives.
Nobody "deserves" to have their heads cut off.
He had a father, a mother, siblings, friends, relatives.
Nobody "deserves" to have their heads cut off.
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Posted 15 May 2004 - 11:23 PM
Angel, on May 15 2004, 10:51 PM, said:
Nobody "deserves" to have their heads cut off.
...not even the mullahs? <_<
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Posted 16 May 2004 - 09:39 AM
It was really an ugly crime
and it is against the true essence of Islam
but i think that the american leaders are glad now cuz It will surely drift the attention of public opinion from the torture and abuse of Iraqi prisoners
eventhough the americans are occupying iraq
eventhough they are killers
eventhough they are liars
eventhough they are despotic
eventhough they are tendentious
but despite of all that , our religion do not accept these barberian acts from these terrorist !!
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Well said fefe joon, your words are gold
Im glad to know that you are muslim
and it is against the true essence of Islam
but i think that the american leaders are glad now cuz It will surely drift the attention of public opinion from the torture and abuse of Iraqi prisoners
eventhough the americans are occupying iraq
eventhough they are killers
eventhough they are liars
eventhough they are despotic
eventhough they are tendentious
but despite of all that , our religion do not accept these barberian acts from these terrorist !!
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Well said fefe joon, your words are gold
Im glad to know that you are muslim